Let’s bask for a moment in the good news: M has landed a job! He has done a few ‘ride on’ days with a local company, so they could see him in action and assess his skills — something of an audition, if you will — and today he had his interview with the company owner. It went well, he got good reviews from the employees he worked with, and they have offered him the job! He starts on Monday. It’s wonderful news. Wonderful! And to make it even better, it appears that the work the company does is actually more suited to his experience than the last place. Sink back in the chair, take a deep breath, and relax. He has a job again.
So I didn’t understand it at all when we sat at the kitchen table and just looked at each other, with faces awash with fear and trepidation. We’ve been waiting for this day — I was expecting that wave of relief and euphoria, but it never came. Something didn’t feel right, and we both found ourselves staring at each other across the table with our stomachs in knots.
The thing is, getting a job was only part of our problem — and, really, it was the relatively easy part. The more worrisome things were securing a high enough payrate and getting the health insurance sorted out. And we’re neither of us really sure that’s been done. M managed to negotiate a slightly higher wage than he was on before — full kudos to him! — but the insurance arrangements at the new company are not as generous, so the net effect is that we will actually be worse off each month, both because the higher monthly premium, and then again when we use the insurance because of the higher deductible. The previous company was also going to cover M’s tuition for the night-classes he needs to take to get his local qualifications, but now these will come out of our pocket. Given that his last job only just covered our basic expenses, leaving us with nearly no spare change, these extra expenses are a bit worrying.
And, this being America and health cover being considered a benefit, there’s a delay before it kicks in. This new company insures the employee after 3 months, the spouse after 6 months, and the children only after a year — before that point, it’s up to employee to find (and fund) private cover. Aside from the fact that I find this practice of witholding basic benefits to be utterly sinful, we have been warned that the COBRA cover is prohibitively expensive, but when we look for other options, we keep running into that same problem we had before because we have not been resident in US long enough to qualify for most insurers’ policies. When M explained this dilemma, the company offered to insure the whole family after a six-month delay instead, and I have spent most of the day on the phone, trying desperately to find companies that will cover us for either of those periods in order to determine which option would be better.
After I mentioned it to my mother, she was quickly on the case and evidently began by plugging our details into various websites because, within the hour, I was receiving phone call after phone call from insurance sales agents. I began every conversation by explaining that we’d only been in the country for four months, and that brought most of the calls to a screeching halt. Now and again, there were rays of hope: a travel policy that might be able to cover M, a high-deductible catastrophic policy for me and the girls. One call was particularly promising — the first one that had a plan that could cover all of us! And right away! And for a reasonable price! I was transferred to a senior agent because of our ‘special circumstances’, and he began to explain the coverage. The company was a huge insurer, I was assured — huge — who usually only worked with large corporations but offered 5% of their policies to a limited number of individuals… This sounded odd, and the cover sounded even odder. It wasn’t being laid out the way other policies were: there was no deductible, no total-out-of-pocket figure… Instead, we would get a set reimbursement when we went to the doctor and while it paid 70% of hospital costs, I heard nothing about a cap on the other 30%. I asked if I could have the details in writing — I wanted to digest it slowly, run it past my father, as he’s much more experienced in this than I am — and was told that an email with all the details and my ID card would arrive within the hour of my signing up. No no no, I said, wasn’t there anyway to read all this before I signed up? The reply sent alarm-bells ringing: this was not offered to the public, so it wasn’t on any website. It was a limited offer, and if I didn’t sign up now, they might fill their quota before I rang back and I’d have lost my chance. Mmmmm… ok. I explained that I did not intend to sign up now but I’d take his number… This resulted in more urgency: I did realise, didn’t I, that I had no other option? The COBRA would cost ‘millions’ and no major medical will take us without meeting the residency requirement. Didn’t I realise I had no other choice? I suddenly wanted this conversation to end, and I should have hung up then, but I am inexperienced at this health insurance lark, so I carried on. I insisted I was not going to sign up now, I was willing to take the risk, on my head be it. Ok, he said, he couldn’t do anything, but would I hold while he talked to a colleague…?
Moments later, the thundering voice of Bill, the Enrollment Director, came on the line. He understood there was a problem… what was the problem? I explained I wanted to think about this policy before signing up, look it over in writing. He repeated the same guff about missing my chance and I repeated that I was willing to take that risk. “But I don’t understand,” he said, “This is your only option. You have no other choice. You don’t qualify for major medical coverage. We are offering you and your family a chance to be insured…” I was sick of this and wanted off the phone, and said that I felt I was getting the hard sell and… He cut in, “No, not at all! We are just trying to offer you the chance to insure your family when no one else will…” He was beginning to become angry, his tone rising. “Do you realise there are 50 million people in the US who are uninsured because they don’t qualify? Just like you. You don’t automatically receive insurance in the USA! This isn’t…” he spat the words, “socialised medicine!!” He was lecturing me. He was lecturing me! I started to say that this was beginning to… but he cut me off, not even trying to hide his anger now, “Listen, you know what?!?…” I knew what was coming but I listened anyway, frozen in shock and disbelief. “We’re going to offer this chance to someone else. We don’t need you as a customer. Good luck getting insurance!” and he hung up on me.
I was shaking. I went in the other room and cried for awhile. M came to look at me in sympathy and uselessness, but I sent him away again. This isn’t what I came to America for. This isn’t what I’d jumped through all those hoops for. I didn’t expect it to be so difficult to do… well, everything! I don’t know what I’m doing here. I don’t understand how anything works here and it takes so much time and energy to figure it all out. I am tired of discovering that my car is due for an inspection I didn’t know about, tired of being suddenly surprised by the local municipality’s tax bill, tired of having to read the small print on every single thing because I have no previous experience of any of it. It’s hard work and it makes everything so slow. And then… and then… and then I get to talk to assholes like that as well, trying to bully me because they know how vulnerable all this makes me.
I hid for a long time in the other room so the girls wouldn’t see me crying. After awhile, an email came through from my mother with a link to the CHIP programme, which I knew required children to be uninsured for six months before they were eligible to enroll. That fact had angered me so much when I’d read it back in December that I hadn’t looked at CHIP again, but my mother had re-read the small print. There was a chance the girls were eligible now because our new situation was involuntary. Still unable to control my voice completely, I gathered my nerves and rang the number.
I spoke to a lovely man who treated me with courtesy and perhaps even a little compassion — my voice, I expect, was betraying me. I explained M had been laid off — did that make my girls eligible? He asked whether we were insured at present. Well, I began, I’m not sure because we have the option of COBRA but the paperwork hasn’t arrived yet (M has chased it with his previous company four times already!) — it should be here this week — and our normal coverage ended on 31 May… “Ok, you have no insurance — you are uninsured,” he said. “Your girls are eligible. You need to fill out a application and send it in. It will take about an hour to do, and then four to six weeks to process. If you take up the COBRA option in that time, your daughters will no longer be eligible. The coverage with CHIP is very good. It includes…” I was overcome with relief that my girls could be covered — it ran warm over me. But his first words struck a chill in my heart: we are uninsured.
Somehow I hadn’t fathomed that, even though I knew our coverage was ending. Because we had the COBRA option, and it had been explained to M that COBRA can be enacted retroactively up to 30 days after the insurance cover ends, in my mind I still thought of us as being ‘covered’. We’d been told that if we were ill or in an accident and needed medical care within those 30 days, we could apply for COBRA afterwards and the bills would be covered. Ok, so the insurance ended this past Saturday but, with the COBRA option still live, we weren’t uninsured. Not really.
But when he said it out loud — you have no insurance, you are uninsured – it became suddenly, terrifyingly real. My eyes dry now, my senses sharp again, I walked back out into the kitchen. E1 was eating her dinner, swinging her legs back and forth under the too-tall chair. E2 was standing on another chair and, with a look of mischievous delight, perching one knee on the table in an attempt to climb up. I looked at my daughters, so blissful… so blissfully unaware. They trust that we will ensure they are taken care of.
We are uninsured. After four months in America, we have joined its 47 million uninsured. Looking at my daughters, the realisation hit me like a slap in the face.


Ok, maybe it’s the hormones at work here but this just made me cry. First of all for how you were treated by that horrible man at that swindle-happy company and then for the situation of being uninsured, along with the 47 million others in a supposedly great, industrialised and progressive nation. My foot.
I hope something works out soon.Congrats to M for getting a new job as well!
Argh! So sorry about that jerk at the insurance company. Just remember, however rude he was to you, he didn’t get the sale or his commission hahahahahahahaha.
I’m glad you were finally able to speak to a civil person and get the CHIP coverage. And it’s great news about the new job!
Never once was I insured growing up in the US of A. Neither of my parents ever had a job that insured us as a family. I never managed to get a job there that would insure me. We kept our health on the back burner due to financial concerns (which I think should not be the case for anyone.) So, I guess that’s why I keep singing the praises of NHS. After living in UK 5 1/2 years it just seems the most natural way to do things. Why socialised medicine is an evil term in the US…puzzles me.
I’m also very puzzled by the Americans’ pathological fear of socialized medicine. I’ve never had to think twice about going to the doctor, I’ve never had to worry about whether my boys would be covered. I didn’t have to mortgage the house to pay for their births. It pains me greatly that 15% of your population have to think before they call the doctor: “Can we afford this?” That should never have to enter the equation.
Colour me a confused Canadian.
NS, I’m kind of glad you cried — I needed someone else to ‘get’ it, why that phone call ripped through me like that, and then why it stopped my heart to realise we actually are part of the Great Uninsured. I was afraid I’d look a bit loopy posting that, so your comment has made me feel better for feeling understood. Ta.
Laura, we haven’t got the CHIP yet. The girls are eligible, but not yet approved. Now I have to play a balancing game of hoping that their application goes through and gets approved (4-6 weeks admin time) before the COBRA option runs out (June 30). If it doesn’t, I have to make a decision: do I sign them up for COBRA ($$$) and scupper their in-process CHIP application, or do I let them miss their chance with COBRA and hang on in the hopes that they will be approved for CHIP? We ain’t out of the woods yet…
NCMrsD, I do understand why most Americans are afraid of socialised medicine — I understand it is a great unknown to them, and that they hear (legitimate) scare stories about it, and that this country built on capitalism would have a natural aversion to anythng that starts with ‘social’ and ends with ‘ism’. But by the same token, I don’t think America should hold its head up and be proud of the system it does have. Great medicine — yes — but great shame in the way it is administered. I am hopeful of a change come January 2009, but if none comes, that alone would be enough for us to be out of here.
Gordo, it’s more dire than that. 15% are uninsured, but next to them you also have the underinsured — if we take up one of those catestrophic policies, we will be one of them, protected against massive bills if something huge and terrible happened, but having to think twice about routine visits to the doctor because we’d have to pay all the costs under the deductible threshold. Those underinsured aren’t counted in the 47 million, but there are millions of them as well. If we hazzard a guess and say that there is one underinsured for every uninsured person (and I have no idea the real figure, just supposing), then the number of Americans who have to stop and think about whether they can afford to call the doctor is actually one third of the US population. No one has to think whether they can afford to send their kids to school, no one has to think whether they can afford to use public roads, or get mail delivered, or even use the library, for pity’s sake. These things are all in place without toppling the country and, what’s more, we all think it’s right that they are freely available. That medical care should not be in amongst those is a thing of great shame.
S – first off, congratulations to M on his new job! I know that it will be a struggle for you but I hope that a raise will be soon to come. I wonder if there are any community training projects that might be able to help with the tuition expenses?
Another thing I thought of, which will be very hard for you with you & the girls’ food allergies, but MAYBE possible, is a program called Angel Food Ministries. There are a lot of locations in PA and basically you get a box of food up to once a month at a great discount. I know some people with allergies who use this and just donate the items they can’t use back to the food pantry, but they are still able to get a very good deal on it.
Finally – That is great news about the CHIP. I have a lot of hope that this will work wonderfully for your girls.
I’m thinking of you all, as always.
AUUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!! I’ve just had another one of those phone-calls!!!!!! A different company, but the same odd benefits, the same sales patter, the same technique of switching me to an “Enrollment Director” when I wouldn’t sign up now, the same talk of just wanting to give me a ‘chance’ to insure my children…
This time, they had a website with the benefits and they were considerably nicer, and gave me a phone number to ring back after I made it plain that I would NOT be signing up here and now, and no one yelled at me, lectured me, or hung up on me. But coming on the heels of that last call, it was like deja-vu and I was ready for it to turn nasty at any moment — I was absolutely shaking by the time I got off the phone.
Does anyone know, are these ‘defined benefit’ plans even legitimate? Or are they all boiler-room scams?
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Does this sound anything like what they are offering?
http://www.healthinsurance.info/plans/Defined-Contribution-Health-Benefits.HTM
I’ll do some further digging if I ever get out of work…. and I’ll ask around tomorrow, some of my colleagues know a fair bit about the health insurance industry but they’ve all left for the day already.
Congrats to M on getting employment! True, it doesn’t end all of your worries, but at least that is one less thing to worry about. I really hope the CHIP thing works out. Is that a local thing? I know in Chicago we had KidCare, but I don’t know if that was just local.
I don’t know if there would be an issue of pride for you (or M) but as Abigail said, there may be some food pantries that help residents. A lot of times you have to live in a certain catchment area. We played with the idea of getting food stamps before we got employment, but the income requirements are incredibly low, even for families.
And that guy on the phone! I just want to strangle him! I would have been in tears, too.
Strawberry,
Congrats on M’s job! That’s terrific news!
The next time you get one of those phone calls, HANG UP! Don’t wait for the yelling to start. Politely tell them you’re hanging up now and then do it. Don’t wait for them to respond, just put the phone down! Then, find out what the laws are in PA. You may need to get on the Do Not Call list. There is a national list and probably a state list. Some of those types of calls are now illegal if you’re on the list.
Now I am getting scared about moving back. I know WA state has a health policy that you can sign up for. I am going to go and read through it to make sure we would qualify. I dont understand, and have never heard that you had to live a certain amount of time in the US to get insurance. That does not make sense to me.
Something has to change in the US. It has to change NOW.
Wow Strawberry, I’ve been reading for awhile but just wanted to say *huge* congrats on M’s job.
That’s just awful about the medical insurance (lack of) system in the US. Your experiences sure make the NHS sound like a picnic in the park.
Holy shit! What a complete git. And there’s me thinking the NHS was a bit crap!
Glad the CHIP thing has worked out, at any rate and I am sure you did the right thing. If they weren’t prepared for you to read the small print before you signed up there must have been something dodgy.
This is the first post I’ve read on your site. I haven’t quite clocked if you are a native US citizen, a returning citizen or have moved there to live.
Every-day people aside (almost exclusively friendly and generally lovely in my experience) the legal and authorities side of the US doesn’t seem to be very good at making people – even it’s own people returning – welcome. I remember being ill there on holiday once and bricking it that we’d have to call a doctor – holiday insurance aside. As for entering the country as a foreign tourist – I’m impressed the US has a tourist industry at all let alone that any of us continue to go back!
On the up side, yer man has a new job! Good going and as somebody else said, at least the insurance scumbag didn’t get his commission. Ha!
I recently read a book called “The Oath” by a Chechnian Surgeon called Khassan Baiv which deals with the whole let’s turn a blind eye to the hypachratic oath question very well. He didn’t and ended up pretty much a ruined man for standing by his beliefs. Very sad but an excellent read.
Good luck.
Cheers
BC
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